ULYSSES & Gariz Case
  • MuleMule
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    beautiful!!!
  • WilzWorkz7WilzWorkz7
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    Pity the price though.
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  • ChristopherChristopher
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    Really nice fit, it seems to cover more of the camera than any other. How much is it going to cost @WilzWorkz7?
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  • markpowermarkpower
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    Maybe it's just me but...sure, it looks nice...but it smacks of pretentiousness. It seems very much a "look at me with my gorgeous leather accessory" product. My camera doesn't need to look gorgeous & expensive. I just take photographs with it ;)
  • seaton carewseaton carew
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    ! agree with mark much prefer not to draw attention to me or camera when out shooting.
  • WilzWorkz7WilzWorkz7
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    The latest NEWS, the x100 has already drawn much attention. Even when people think you are shooting film. Some people like a bit of protection. Some don't. Just reflect your character and personality. So to each its own.

    @Christopher SGD207. About US$167
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  • love this case... my favorite so far... though I love the handle of Luigi's. Rock the bling if it has function!
  • WilzWorkz7WilzWorkz7
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    the other one by gariz...is very close to this. One good advantage is the metal plate at the bottom AND full access to the SD card AND battery.



    I might be going to Korea. And this is something I am looking into.

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  • msmbbmsmbb
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    I really like the Gariz one; like the idea of access of battery/sd card. just worry about adding weight/height to it from the metal bottom.
  • Photorx12Photorx12
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    My gariz case and strap arrives in three days, will post pics and thoughts.
  • My Ulysses case arrived from Japan last night and it's absolutely gorgeous. If you like the pics of it posted by WilzWorks at the top of this thread, and aren't horrified by the price (mainly due to awful dollar/yen exchange rate), then feel confident that it delivers on the understated yet stunning appearance you see. Craftsmanship, fit & finish and leather quality are all beyond first rate.

    I looked at both the Gariz and Luigi half-cases, both beautiful and well-crafted in their own right, and here were my reasons for going with the Ulysses:

    1) While I liked the idea of the metal plate at the bottom of the Gariz, I didn't like that it added to both the height (in particular) and weight of the X100. Also owing to how that metal plate elevates the X100, I didn't like the way the top edge of the Gariz case falls well below the top edge of the X100 (i.e., where the black meets the silver). It just looked like a strange design choice to me. Of course, tastes differ, so YMMV.

    2) Compared to Luigi's case--and this was a tough choice because it's very similar--I just thought the Ulysses looked a bit more tailored, a bit more trim and really fitted to the camera body, giving a somewhat more elegant and less clunky appearance. It looked to me in comparing photographs of the cases before I purchased that Luigi's case might be somewhat thicker (I'm talking the actual sides/bottom thickness of the case itself), which could account for why the Ulysses case looks trimmer--it's closer to the Gariz fit/thickness, but uses an even higher quality leather.

    There is a metal plate sewn into the Ulysses to conform to the shape of the X100's front grip. But straight out of the package, that three-dimensional form-fitting look isn't quite there. It will take some time for the leather to wear-in around the grip beneath it.

    Well, if there's a premium case purchase in the future for your X100, I hope this information helps with your purchase decision. Feel free to post questions here and I'll try to answer them.
  • Well, CharlesN, the very first question is where do you buy it? My Google exchange rate says $178 USD based on 13,650 Yen? Thanks, I'm intrigued. More options for the end consumer is always a good thing!
  • Here's a link to the Ulysses site in English: http://ulysses.jp/user_data/x100_english.php#top

    Once you get on the page, look in the upper left corner for the tenso.com box -- they handle overseas shipments of Ulysses products.

    Don't forget to order the strap if you want one. It's at the very bottom of the case page. The half case doesn't come with a strap. I got the standard "Classico" (not the Grande) in chocolate brown leather to match the case. Like the half-case itself, the workmanship on the strap is impeccable. You should also know that the case is avail in black, while the strap comes in multiple colors of leather.

  • Augh. Ok, this is probably my next purchase. However, I don't want to accidentally order a racing bicycle or something. The order form is in Japanese as well, but I suppose I can muddle through it. Now (lifting the couch cushions), if I can only find a little more spare change. ;)
  • Ulysses says on their Facebook page (buried in the comments of one of the photos of their X100 case) that they are working on getting an English version of their website up and running, as well as an ordering system that doesn't require you to go through the company Tenso to get your order shipped (which currently increases the price even more). It's a shame they aren't selling on eBay like a lot of the other companies because I'm sure they'd get a lot more customers that way. Their case looks lovely and I'm drooling over it, but not at the current exchange rate (almost $190 as I'm writing this, ouch).
  • cosinaphilecosinaphile
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    i li,ke it much more that the luigi case , it looks really nice
    im using a rainbow bimaging 60 dollar black witn red stitch job that i bought as a package with the jjc hoood a thin filter and some other stuff loke m 43 adapters
    about 200 diollars of stuff and it was picked up in person in nyc over a cup of coffee at a whole foods cafe in the supeermarket , hes a warm and friendly guy

    my rainboew img is coool but the firsat case in like a custom saddle
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    i shoot with the x100 and the x10
  • Ok, apparently you can now order this through the Facebook site... Interesting.
  • jacjac
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    now, if they made the Ulysses with access to battery compartment and SD card.. but i'd shudder at the price >:)
  • jacjac
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    that is one butt-ugly case
  • WilzWorkz7WilzWorkz7
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    jac said:

    that is one butt-ugly case



    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Between paying nearly 200 dollars to look nice and get something that is practical and something that is just couple of tens of dollars that do the same thing but not as well made, my vote goes to being practical. yeah I guess I saved the money for a better gear next year.

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  • artmartm
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    I haven't seen anyone complain about the high prices of good cases for the X10/X100 on a percentage basis.

    Really, a $100 case for a $600 camera (X10) or $200 for a $1200 camera (X100)? Imagine that 16% rate on a Leica M series. That would be beyond ridiculous!

    I have an X10. While a case would be nice I refuse to jump in on this craze of expensive, over-priced accessories for these cameras. It seems people have glorified these cameras to Leica status simply because of the retro styling and good capability. Manufacturers have accomodated this by pricing their accessories accordingly.

    I will wait for a copy of this case at a fair price. I previously had a Leica D-Lux 4 and never found the need to accessorize that. That wasn't a "real" Leica...wait, neither are these Fujis. :)
  • pcgpcg
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    Say what you will about price, once you've owned a fine half-case, no camera feels protected--or complete--without one. All of my M Leicas had cases by Luigi. The Fuji X series deserve as much, and $100-200 for a fine leather case is peanuts.
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  • K1W1K1W1
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    To me cases and all accessories are personal. If somebody wants to use them then fine that is their choice and their money and if other people want to go naked with their cameras that is also their choice. Discussion about cost is irrelevant you the individual thinks its worthwhile or not depending on your point of view and that is all the matters to you.
    Let's get on with taking photos.
  • artmartm
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    "...$100-200 for a fine leather case is peanuts"

    Again, you miss the point. Is it peanuts if the camera is worth $100? Are you saying you'd buy a Leica M case for $600+? That's less than the 16% I mentioned above. I'm not calling you a snob but I'm sure many Leica snobs would.

    There comes a point where it makes no sense.

    As for protection, come on now! A half case offers very little security. Even the Eveready cases of old, if I dropped my top heavy Nikon F2's they'd be seriously damaged, no thanks to the case. Those cases had a full back and offered protection when closed. These half cases have an open back by necessity. Go ahead and drop one if you're so confident.

    The real reason for the appeal of these is appearance. Let's be honest there at least. And people spend a lot of peanuts for that!

  • HFMHFM
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    @artm

    I can't really see why you feel the need to question people's motives for buying cases or how much they pay for them. Surely it's none of your business :) You are just taking your own points of view and personal perceptions of value and extrapolating to it all other X10/X100 users :p Aka looking for an argument..

    Let's get back to discussing the cases instead..
  • mattmabermattmaber
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    I don't think its fair to judge the price of the case by % of the cameras value. The case costs X to make regardless of how much the camera costs.

    Buy what you want, spend what u want. I got the HorusBennu half case for my X100 which I think is very reasonably priced.
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  • I was also a bit skeptic about paying quite a bit for the original fuji case for my X10, but once i got it i was sure that i made the right choice. I have already spent quite a bit of money on this camera. Whats an extra 100 dollars for good protection and a quality product. I believe in putting in some extra bucks the first time for a well-made product, then ending up spending time and money on several products that has limited livingtime.

    In the end it doesnt matter what the cost for your accessories are as long as you take pictures. We own a fuji camera to make great pictures, not to show off our cameras in the public. The look and design are just a bonus.
  • pcgpcg
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    Agreed. I think bashing anyone who wants a nice half-case is rather odd. They have a number of advantages that are immediately apparent once you starting using them. The body is well protected from casual scratches or mars, the slightly wider overall size makes gripping easier and, for me, the slightly extra weight allows me to handhold with greater confidence. Sure, they look good and hark back to the 1950s retro look--which makes the X-series appealing in the first place.

    I'd take the half-case criticism seriously if it was coming from users who had purchased a Gariz, for instance, and rejected it after a couple months of intense use. But speculation by someone who's never owned one? Speculation that seems influenced by some faux camera to case ratio cost comparison? I have used everything from Leicas to Pentax to Canons--and now Fujis--for over 25 years, and wouldn't take a camera out on the streets without a half-case.
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  • artmartm
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    I am not bashing. I'm simply voicing opinions on:

    1. the outrageous cost of these cases. If you can have teh best case ever made for $500 would you buy it for a Leica M? Probably. For a Fuji? No. Why? Because there is a point where the cost ratio is prohibitive - to a sensible person.

    2. the lack of protection of these cases, especially half case types. When have you heard of anyone dropping his camera and being saved by a half-case?


    Yes, I own an X10. Am I ga-ga over it to go to any extreme to fulfill my illusion of this camera? No. Would I like a half case? Sure, at reasonable cost. Will I be secure that it protects my camera to any GOOD degree? No. It just looks good.

    I see flaws in all of the available cases, including high cost ones. It's a result of a rush to market.

    I'd like to see a non-leather case, without the associated bulk and fitting issues. Something neoprene with a snug fit would work. Of course, it can have a leather look for those who care, including me.

    Give me one with:

    1. an open bottom to access the battery compartment.

    2. a symmetrical fit, left and right. Many don't have this obvious requirement.

    3. a front cover as in the Eveready ones. A half case simply offers no protection to the lens without this.
  • mattmabermattmaber
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    euch, a neoprene case sound awful.

    my cheapish half case for my X100 has battery/memory card access and a tripod thread.
    how do you mean a symmetrical fit?
    not sure what 3 means either.
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  • pcgpcg
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    artm misses the point of a half-case... the moment I read "neoprene" I realized that this was a conversation that had no meaning. I'd recommend not responding further. As I wrote a couple of posts earlier, "I'd take the half-case criticism seriously if it was coming from users who had purchased a Gariz, for instance, and rejected it after a couple months of intense use. But speculation by someone who's never owned one?" Don't be baited.
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  • artmartm
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    Symmetrical: I see some cases with, viewing the camera from the front, the left side goes up and over the lug while the right side doesn't. The left side around the lens does not match the right. Just lack of design attention.

    Neoprene: not the old style neoprene. I've seen some new fangled stuff that looks real nice with any texture you like. My point here is that you can get a much better fit with this instead of leather; more form fitting. You also get real shock protection.

  • mattmabermattmaber
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    @artm I prefer it not to be symmetrical, gives it a sense of style. Claiming it not being symmetrical shows a lack of design attention is Im afraid an egregious argument.
    Symmetrical design != good design.

    good design == good design, regardless of symtricallity or not. You don't let something as tenuous as that guide the whole design.

    hmm, not sure Ive seen this new neoprene, All I now is all the laptop cases Ive seen in neoprene look and feel cheap and I don't see how it protects better than good old leather.

    I haven't owned an expensive Gariz case and cannot justify the cost, but I appreciate the workmanship and effort thats gone into it.

    My cheapish half case is fine for me
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  • pcgpcg
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    Nice case (and strap), Matt. Stealth w/ the slightest touch of conscious design in that red wrap on the strap connection.
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  • mattmabermattmaber
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    Thanks. I plan on moving the red Gordy strap to my Nikon D90 and getting a black black for the x100
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  • pcgpcg
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    That reminds me: I need to order a wrist strap from Gordy. All good stuff.
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  • WilzWorkz7WilzWorkz7
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    i might add. a half case is just a case that is covering half of the camera. so there's not much of a protection since it only covers half the camera.

    secondly, my top half of the camera has already seen better days now. Between having a camera that is pristine and not get used or one that takes beautiful pictures and get nicked for that, I choose the later anytime. I buy a camera to take pictures, not to use it to gain recognition as someone that has the x100. I would rather gain recognition for the photos i take with the x100.

    That said, the horusbennu case and the gariz case has 4 main things that will prove useful to the photographer.

    a) It actually lengthens the height of the camera, thereby giving it more grip for big hands.
    b) It has that finger hump/grip at the front that gives a better handling to the camera
    c) It has the hole at the button to gain access to the battery/SD card compartment
    d) The screw has a D ring so that one can make use of their Blackrapid strap if they have one.

    Accessories are bought based on how wants to associate its looks/use for the things they own. I beautify my car too with accessories and will do the same with things I own. I see nothing wrong there. I also see nothing wrong if someone says they don't do the same to their car/camera. It is really a matter of preference, a matter of budget, a matter of how money is spent within a budget.

    I guess the underlying perspective of what has happened here is this. When comments are made to say something that is not that good or not worth it, it is pertaining to the item based on the perception of the one commenting and not a negative comment about the person who bought the item. I guess this is where all of us in this thread has failed to realise.

    Let's just start to understand that comments are based on the life experiences, budget, limitations, requirements and circumstances that a poster has. Once we understand that, it gives us better appreciation about the comments being posted.

    Blessed are the peacemakers...

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  • pcgpcg
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    Here's a photo of my new Ciesta brown leather half-case, just in yesterday.
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  • artmartm
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    WilzWorkz7: My comnemts were MOSTLY directed at the product but also at those who seem to buy these obscenely priced and hyped products to be poseurs.

    Honestly, $50, $90 and up for a piece of leather MADE IN CHINA?! That is absurd to say the least. At least Luigi's cases are Italian but they are still grossly overpriced.

    pcg: looking at the back of your case, it appears the aperture/shutter dial is partially blocked by it. If that's so then it's a serious design flaw. But, of course, your setup still looks awesome! (that was sarcasm)
  • artm, I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but absurd to you is pennies to someone else. Why do you want to argue on here so badly? We want to discuss cases. If you don't, then go somewhere else. No harm. Go... look at making your own neoprene case or something.

    Now, back to the cases:

    pcg - how much is that Ciesta case, can I ask? It does look nice, although I'm not crazy about that particular color. They make quite a few colors though if I remember correctly.

    I've debated a half case for some time and am now tempted based on this thread. I've found that the Thumbs Up grip has solved all of my grip problems. (lol, there's absurd for you, artm! $120 for a piece of metal but it works amazingly well and I love it.) However, I'd be great with improving the grip, as I do have large hands...

    pcg: Definitely order the Gordy strap. It's awesome. VERY secure and so customizable at such a bargain. However, I'd suggest ordering the string attachment instead of the ring. No chance of scratching the camera up and attaches easily and is very strong.
  • kiwikiwi
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    artm said:


    Honestly, $50, $90 and up for a piece of leather MADE IN CHINA?! That is absurd to say the least. At least Luigi's cases are Italian but they are still grossly overpriced.



    So you are not only a cheapskate but you are also racist as well?
    Really it's about time that there was some moderation in this thread it's got way past the point of being worthwhile.

  • WilzWorkz7WilzWorkz7
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    artm said:

    WilzWorkz7: My comnemts were MOSTLY directed at the product but also at those who seem to buy these obscenely priced and hyped products to be poseurs.



    Well, what makes you a judge who is or isn't a poseur? Everyone earn their keeps so that they can enjoy things they have sweat their hearts out for. Everyone's perceived value of products is different and everyone's tastes is different. To value judge based on taste in this instance is just a fruitless endeavour at best and provocative at worse.

    The good book says: "Don't judge lest one is judged by the same standards"

    They are better ways to tell people money can be better spent elsewhere.

    As for MADE IN CHINA leather goods, you may be wearing Made in China underwear, brush with MIC toothbrushes and even the iPad is made in China. Are they any bad? Not all things made in the US of A are of good quality and thus, not all Made in China stuff are bad too. I do have a made in china leather bag that I have been using for a couple of years now with no problems. So it really is a moot point.
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  • artmartm
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    kiwi: OK, enough of this. I didn't bring race into this YOU DID. My argument about made in China is strictly economics; if you see race in that then you're an idiot.

    Now, pcg, you conveniently ignored the part of my question about the dial and your case. I wonder why?

    Also, regarding your $120 Thumbs Up, why don't read up on this thread:

    http://www.fujixseries.com/discussion/850/another-thumbs-up-competitor#Item_18

    This company will soon make one for the X10. And look, it's better and cheaper than yours.
  • pcgpcg
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    The Ciesta case doesn't effect use of the main-command dial whatsoever; it's nicely cut to rest above the dial. Quite pleasing in that regard.

    collier: the case cost $92, which included shipping (that's my memory). Inexpensive given the quality leather and the high level of craftsmanship. It's Korean-made and matches the sewing of my old Luigi cases. (Btw, I did order that additional Gordy strap.)

    I'd give it an 8.5 out of 10; my only critique is that the bottom is not instantly accessible as it is in the Gariz cases. That aside, the pleasant increase in camera width and weight makes gripping far nicer. It's well-designed and well-made. And if I hadn't seen the rather ingenious Gariz design, I'd rate the Ciesta at a 10.
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  • mattmabermattmaber
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    Im not sure Made in Italy is a guarantee of higher quality than Made in China, just a good reason to charge more as labour is more expensive.
    It doesn't really bother me where it's made and we're all free to pay what we want and value objects however much we want. If you work for the cash why not spend it on something you appreciate.
    Some may say £2k is a ridiculous price for an M9 - looking at the poor high iso performance I may think that myself. Doesn't stop me wanting one though. Although I do think the crappy high ISO on an M9 for that price borders on criminal lol.
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  • artmartm
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    pcg: fine about the dial, it wasn't clear in any pics I've seen.
    mattmaber: my point about China was the ratio between the labor rate and the cost of a case. Again, it is out of line. China has been notoriously known for bad quality control or subtandard materials in many things. Before someone jumps on me, I'm not talking about Taiwan!

    Luigi is well known for his materials and quality, hence my praise of his work.

    I didn't complain about the cost of the Fuji cameras, just the RELATIVE cost of accessories. Fuji itself seems to think that, gee, the cameras look like Leicas why not price the accessories as if they're for Leicas. I simply refuse to fall into that trap.

  • mattmabermattmaber
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    My made in china case is fine.

    My point about the M9 was just to say that people will rightly pay what they see as reasonable for an item/service. Its up to them.

    I happily pay what many perceive as MORE for a Mac laptop, personally I can't put up with windows and find the hardware generally shoddy. Its a value choice that I make and its up to me, no one should criticise it.
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  • artmartm
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    Again, my point is missed. I compared the relative cost of an accessory, especially a case, to these cameras.

    Would you spend $600 on a case for a $600 X10; hopefully not. Well, I find a $100 case too much for this price point of a camera, as I also do for Fuji's overpriced hood.

    Enough already...
  • pcgpcg
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    artm, your criteria for what is price appropriate is not a criteria anyone else participating in this discussion follows. The real world doesn't work in the manner you demand. Your "point," repeated ad nauseum, is based on a fantasy of your own making. The price of the cases discussed is a bargain. The quality is outstanding. The efficacy of the cases is high. The aesthetics are marvelous. In short, what's not to like? (Yeah, I remember: the cases are not made of neoprene and don't cost $20.)

    As someone else recently suggested to you, if you don't like any of the factors that everyone else favors, go play in another thread. You've made your "point," (and it's not constructive).
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