Slow start up
  • StevedSteved
    Posts: 27
    Hi All

    I need some advise as I am sure I have the wrong setting or the camera is faulty. When I switch the camera on the back screen comes to life after about two seconds. But it is a further 18 sec before the camera is ready to shoot. Any advice most welcome
  • ChristopherChristopher
    Posts: 2,142
    Have you formatted your SD card in your camera?

    The X100 seems to be particularly picky about the files on the card, if you've been using it with another camera, or connected it to your iPad, or are storing some extra files, that will all affect the X100's startup time.
    Fuji X Series Administrator · ChrisMarks.com · Space Cadet Photo Blog · Flickr
  • StevedSteved
    Posts: 27
    Hi Chris

    I was not aware that I had done any of the above but you were spot on thanks so much
  • Solution: before inserting memory card from Fuji to any of Apple products, lock the write protect on memory card, and always reformat in camera.
  • It may also be worth doing this on Windows machines as well - they could potentially write a hidden file called Thumbs.db to the card and cause similar problem.

    Purely for info: I use a Mac at home and Windows at work. If I look at a USB stick on my windows machine that that has been used on my Mac, there are lots of hidden files exposed! They are all to do with how the content will be viewed on screen (size, large or small icons and so on) all of which will confuse the camera.

    Steve
    www.steveturnbull.com
    www2.steveturnbull.com (a project driven site still in development)

    ~ Fuji X100 ~ Fuji X-Pro1 with Fuji 35mm ~ Nikon F80 with Nikkor 50mm f1.4 ~ Panasonic Lumix TZ10 ~ An old Nikon Coolpix ~ Samsung Galaxy S2 ~
  • macginomacgino
    Posts: 47
    Good tip, thank you.
    I use a Mac also and hadn't had slow start up problems on the X100 as described above before but if the happen i know what to do now.
  • cosinaphilecosinaphile
    Posts: 1,063
    i realize this was happening to me too and i no longer rotate images outside of the cameras software and format in camera first , even so a reformat time to time is good to do , i forgert to write protect switch before putting it intoa a win computer , great advice
    i shoot with the ricoh gxr and m mount module with adapted glass
    i shoot with the samsung ex1 and the ricoh gx 200
    i shoot with the ep1 and gf1 with adapted slr and rf glass
    i shoot with the x100 and the x10
  • tlvaltlval
    Posts: 1
    I found a real trick to seriously speed up the startup of my X100.

    Take out your memory card and format the internal memory. I did this and it sped up the start up of my X100 by 3 fold. I found this out by accident because I forgot to put back my memory card and took some photos. My X100 stored about 5 photos on the internal memory and after copying the files over to my Mac, I formatted the internal memory. This really helped!!!

    I hopes this helps some of you out.
  • Is there a way to reformat the card and not erase the images? Or will the write-protect prevent the erasure of the images?
  • Ok, when I take the SD card out and turn on the camera, it says "Internal Memory is Full Insert a New Card." But I hit playback, and there are no images in the memory. Then I go to the Set Up menu to Format, it shows:

    (card icon) FORMAT (highlighted in red)
    (internal memory icon) FORMAT OK?
    ERASE ALL DATA

    OK
    CANCEL

    I can toggle between OK and CANCEL, but I cannot choose the Internal Memory format option?? The red highlight bar stays on the card Format only. Is this normal? If I choose OK anyway, I get the momentary blue screen as if it is reformatting, then the main display again with the same message "Internal Memory is Full Insert a New Card." Turning the camera on and off has no effect. I turned off the camera, took out the battery, then reinserted and turned back on, still get the same message.

    Any ideas??
    Fujifilm Finepix X100 / Nikon D7000 / Canon G11
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancysproulcarter/
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  • Ok, did some more playing around, and think I figured it out...

    Firstly, the word FORMAT with the red highlight is simply a "title" it seems. The formatting will apply to the source shown beside the words FORMAT OK? underneath (the icon will show internal memory when there is no SD card, then SD card only when it is inserted). So that is sorted out. I don't know if this menu would confuse others, but it did me!

    But I still had the issue of showing Internal Memory Full when there were no images in internal memory to display, and it would not let me take a photo in this case. So after trying formatting with and without an SD card several times, I finally took a photo with the SD card in, then copied it to the internal memory via the playback menu (why it let me do this when it would not let me take a photo without an SD card, I do not know), then took out the card and formatted the internal memory. Now the Internal Memory Full message does not come on even when there is no SD card, AND my startup time is definitely faster! Whew!

    After all of this, I was poking around on some other forums and saw a mention that saving a RAW file to the internal memory may cause this problem, so is perhaps best avoided (even though I don't actually remember saving ANY images to internal memory...).
    Fujifilm Finepix X100 / Nikon D7000 / Canon G11
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancysproulcarter/
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  • adanacadanac
    Posts: 34
    Using a good high speed SDHC card will also notably improve start up times. I use a pair of 45MB/S Sandisk Extreme Pro cards. Highly recommended.
  • gregvdsgregvds
    Posts: 531
    Very interesting stuff.

    A lot of people had issue in an other field (Cowon media player) and Macs. Apple does index every new device that it detects, you can see this on the spotlight icon (the small searching loupe in the right up corner usually). While indexing, it has a blinking point inside the loupe. One can stop this in the system preference, spotlight, and add devices that should not be indexed. Moreover, I did write a small python script for myself that erase all the mac hidden files (files and folder whose names begin with a dot, usually hidden on a mac, but visible under a pc, or one can find the shell command to execute to show/hide them) of my cowon player and unmount/eject it. With Cowon, it's very risky to let these files be created in the memory of the player, it simply brick down it totally, just having to return it before warranty is over. With my script, I never had a problem though. I'll use it with my cards too.

    Good advice too to write-protect your card, it will simply block the creation of dot files and folders under mac, and thumbs.db and other trashes under pc.
  • mattmabermattmaber
    Posts: 2,719
    I dont write protect mine and I have no problems.

    I do format it before I use it again though
     Mac · Blog · Flickr · g+ · Facebook · Twitter
    Fuji X100 · Yashica Minister III · BIllingham Hadley Small
  • tlval said:

    I found a real trick to seriously speed up the startup of my X100.

    Take out your memory card and format the internal memory. I did this and it sped up the start up of my X100 by 3 fold. I found this out by accident because I forgot to put back my memory card and took some photos. My X100 stored about 5 photos on the internal memory and after copying the files over to my Mac, I formatted the internal memory. This really helped!!!

    I hopes this helps some of you out.



    Dude, just tried this tip out and the camera boots up less than 1 sec! Thanks for the tip!!!

  • Hi - Yes I looked this up because my camera suddenly started taking FOREVER to start up. It did happen straight after I bought an iPad adapter and stuck my SD card into it.
    I don't know if it was plugging the SD Card in directly, or plugging the camera in via USB (I did both)... anyway, thanks for the tip and I will revert once I've experimented a bit.
  • To all persons having trouble with slow start-up-times after having used a card reader om a Mac: Try renaming the card on the desktop - don't format - it is not necessary! Works fine with me - normal start-up-times afterwards!

    I hope this can solve some of the problems mentioned above and prevent problem for those who don't find formatting a good solution
  • utentemacutentemac
    Posts: 20
    The write-lock trick just doesn't work with the iPad: it seems it need to write some metadata files. If you put locked SD's it won't let you import anything.

    One trick that partially resolve the issue is to start the camera from the review button instead of from the lens itself. Only then, after the first photo is shown, you should turn the barrel to start capturing photos.

    Contacting Fujifilm I've been told that it's not recognized as a defect. It's recognized as a characteristic of the camera(s). Pointing out that X10 is the one and only camera I've ever shot with which shown this bug didn't manage to convince the Fujifilm employee.
  • I loved the camera, but the startup times were doing my head! WHat a downer I thought... But now, reformatted the SD card in the camera, and no more slow startup times! Perfect! Thanks for the advise Christopher! :-bd
  • utentemac said:

    The write-lock trick just doesn't work with the iPad: it seems it need to write some metadata files. If you put locked SD's it won't let you import anything.


    Update: the lock switch trick DOES work. Can't replicate what's happened the first time. Do ALWAYS use the switch before importing the photos on the iPad.

  • AgranatAgranat
    Posts: 1
    Here is the solution I found, turn the iPad off before pulling the card out. And I mean off!!! (hold the off button until the red slider appears and slide to turn off)

    The iPad seems put an index file on the card just like any Mac does, if you actually don't unmount the drive on a Mac before you put it in the camera you will have the same problem. Unmounting the card does delete these index files!!!

Hello Photographer!

Love your Fujifilm X-Pro1, X-E1, X100S, X100, X20, X10 and XF1? We do too! Join a forum community of fellow Fuji X Series photographers to receive tips and advice on using your X-Pro1, X-E1, X100S, X100, X20, X10 or XF1, show off your latest photos, and share your experiences with these awesome cameras.

Sign in or create an account below to join in the discussions!

Login with Facebook Sign In with Google Sign In with OpenID Sign In with Twitter