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mattmaber said:Sorry if this offends, I don't mean to but I do wish I could get more from these and I just find them falling flat and emotionless for me
mattmaber said:I'm no paint throwing, bunny hugging vegan btw
mattmaber said:@steve1401 but trees arent genrally tortured for the delectation and entertainment of small minded people, drooling into their laps with excitement.
mazzagran said:
Some people criticize these kind of events but forgive a lot other artists work like world press photo awarded photos on war scenario. Oh wait! That is not brutality on animals, so that's ok.
FinePixCamera said:I'm going to have to agree with Maber here (I think I'm going to be sick), bull fighting is 100% atrocious behavior on the part of people.
mattmaber said:
FinePixCamera said:I'm going to have to agree with Maber here (I think I'm going to be sick), bull fighting is 100% atrocious behavior on the part of people.
Ha, I think I here the clippity clop of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse....
I perosnally dont think its necessary to photograph, we know what happens, just join the 20th century and ban it.
Im not a vegetarian, do i need to justify it? I like the taste of meat and atleast its not breed to be ritually tortured whilst being looked on by 1000s of baying Neanderthals.
mattmaber said:Food is food, but if someone gets their jollies watching animal being slowly tortured to death or doing that act then thats just plain wrong.
Any country not banning this does not deserve to be in a group of supposedly modern fellow countries.
"Tradition" is no excuse either, or we may as well all go live back in caves as that was popular aeons ago.
Jknights said:@mattmaber I totally understand you point of view but have to agree and also disagree.
I have been to one bullfight locally where I live in Spain. I did not enjoy the spectacle and probably wont ever go again. The images captured here do not show the barbarism or even the willingness of humans to bate, torture or kill other humans or animals. The final cutting off of the bulls' ears is for me a disrespectful act that encapsulated the whole correda.
There are other types of bull fighting where the bull is not killed or maimed. I have not witnessed these and until I do I will not declaim them.
I have no desire to see a one sided contest. Man v. Bull maybe but there is no need to add in picador and other helpers to aid the matador provide a killing. That said I would say that there is an art present but it is not for me! Neither do I desire to force my opinion on others who might want to see it.
Regarding running with bulls I do think this is sport.
Around my town we have running with bulls and each year there are about 3-6 fatalities and many injuries to people but none to the bulls. :-)
There are many people who think running with bulls is equally barbaric. If that is the case then I am willing to provide those people with opportunities to run and see how long they survive!
I am a libertarian and dont believe in the nanny state or political correctness. A spade is a spade. I do agree that the correda is cruel but we need to educate why we think it so instead of stating it as fact rather than opinion!
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