will there be an X-M1 and if so, what will it be?
  • ci_leeci_lee
    Posts: 48
    If it were to exist, I'm of the mindset that it would be an entry level ILC. Tho I hope it would have the following:

    - same X-Trans II/EXR II setup like the X100s. Would be very surprised if a sensor between the 2/3" and APS-C were developed tho I wouldn't mind a slightly downsized sensor if it used the same mount as the rest of the system and the body were sized like an X10/20...

    - body style ala X10/20. I own an XP1 & soon to be X20 (formerly X10) and while I enjoy the retro control, I do like the mode dial layout as well (C1 & C2 are great!!). Just add an extra command dial on the front of the camera (not like the X10/20 rear sub-dial) and control of aperture and shutter is still breeze. One nit pick I have with the hard dials of the XP/XE/X100 is the need to use secondary controls for 1/3 stop increments...

    - Add-on EVF with flash pass-thru or built in flash like X100 (to wirelessly control my EF-X20!)

    - same build quality as the rest of the X-series..don't dilute the theme of the line with plasticky toys, we're fans BECAUSE of the overall package not just IQ and looks!

    - wouldn't mind a tilt-screen...having an X-P/E on a hand strap to use with VF and a secondary body on a shoulder strap with a tilt screen for off-the-hip street shooting = awesome!! I would have the upcoming 56mm on my XP and the 14mm or CZ 12mm on the hip camera. Street shooters dream

    - price it @ $699/body or $849/kit ($249 for the EVF??) and that would bring a whole new demographic to the X-Series...and for us loyal existing ILC customers, a 2nd or 3rd Fuji body!!

    What would you like to see?
  • veejayceeveejaycee
    Posts: 2,045
    What would I like to see?

    You - walking down the street looking like a Christmas tree bedecked in several cameras whilst trying for the stealthy approach. How did you come up with this mythical X-M1? :)
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  • K1W1K1W1
    Posts: 916
    The X-M1 has been flagged on rumour sites several times already most recently about 2-3 weeks ago.
    I firmly believe that there will be an entry level X series interchangeable lens camera from Fuji. It's a very logical and sensible step. The ideal would basically be an X-E1 without the EVF and maybe some slightly more auto oriented firmware.
    The already flagged May release of the 55-200 makes this camera a 100% certainty sooner rather than later imo. This will allow Fuji to market a competitively priced "twin lens kit" against the DSLR market and more importantly against the OM-D and Sony Nex cameras. Fuji need this camera to get more casual users into the X series system so they can then upgrade them with additional lenses and higher spec bodies.
  • pominpocketpominpocket
    Posts: 2,030
    Personally I would rather start with the high spec bodies in the first place.

    I like the fact Nikon and Cannon users are down sizing to high quality Fuji. I do not think they should sell them selves cheap.
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  • ci_leeci_lee
    Posts: 48
    veejaycee said:

    What would I like to see?

    You - walking down the street looking like a Christmas tree bedecked in several cameras whilst trying for the stealthy approach. How did you come up with this mythical X-M1? :)



    Yes I do look rather like a Christmas tree sometimes...haven't had time in a while but if I'm going out just to shoot (not just going out and bringing a camera with me, just in case), I'll often be carrying the XP w/35mm, the X10 and iphone in a bag, compact tripod, and the EFX20 flash in my pocket...

    As for the mythic camera, looks like Nikon tried something like it with that coolpix A but forgot to price it accordingly! If fuji can make an ILC or even fixed-lens zoom around that size with a tilt screen, I'd be pre-ordering my second item ever..X20 being the first preorder I've ever put in.
  • pominpocketpominpocket
    Posts: 2,030
    Do you think its worth the upgrade (x10 to x20) I am in the same boat choice wise. They are nice and small and very good to carry every where (with out looking like a Christmas tree.)
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    Fuji XE1 35mm 1.4



  • ci_leeci_lee
    Posts: 48
    I did think it was worth it (even without final reviews, etc) for two reasons:

    - I really do like using the VF and having the info in there is huge!

    - with the recent improved LR RAW support, having a more unified all X-Trans workflow makes life easier for an amateur like me. Granted I was using Filterstorm Pro on my iPad a lot with the jpegs from the X10. Now if adobe could come up with a good iPad app or Apple support the X-Trans (where FSPRO gets its RAW support) I'd be happy as a clam!
  • jacjac
    Posts: 675
    so what does the 'M' stand for or denote? 'Mediocre'?
  • mattmabermattmaber
    Posts: 3,969
    Isnt the X-E1 already really the low end interchangeable camera in the X-series. Fuji will need to keep a slight premium surely to keep the X brand from looking too low class budgety?
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  • jacjac
    Posts: 675
    I'm thinking fuji is releasing too many product lines. Gonna confuse a lot of people. Not necessary
  • mattmabermattmaber
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    I think the lines in the X series are OK atm, the 'low end' compact fashion accesory I have no interest in, the X20 replacing the X10, the X100s replacing the X100 & the X-E1 and X-Pro1.
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  • jacjac
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    So is X-E1 = Entry level, and X-M1 = Mid range?
  • mattmabermattmaber
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    Ill belive the X-M1 when i see it, until then im not convinced. Werent the rumours that the M1 would have a Lieca M mount? that seems highly unlikely.
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  • NYCGoonerNYCGooner
    Posts: 93
    If you believe fujirumors there will be an X-A1, X-M1, X-E1, X-Pro1 as the line for interchangeable lens cameras.
    Personally I'd stick to improving what they have. I do worry about them "cheapening" themselves. Though, I suppose grabbing as much of the market as possible can only mean good things for the future?
  • jacjac
    Posts: 675
    So:

    X-A1 = Amateur
    X-M1 = Mid
    X-E1 = Enthusiast
    X-P1 = Pro

  • MarcusQuidoMarcusQuido
    Posts: 19
    jac said:

    So:

    X-A1 = Amateur
    X-M1 = Mid
    X-E1 = Enthusiast
    X-P1 = Pro



    something like that i guess
  • jacjac
    Posts: 675
    Yet to come..

    X-G1 = Gay
    X-K1 = Kids
    X-T1 = Traveller
    X-U1 = Underwater

  • ChristopherChristopher
    Posts: 2,534
    K1W1 said:

    I firmly believe that there will be an entry level X series interchangeable lens camera from Fuji. It's a very logical and sensible step. The ideal would basically be an X-E1 without the EVF and maybe some slightly more auto oriented firmware.
    The already flagged May release of the 55-200 makes this camera a 100% certainty sooner rather than later imo. This will allow Fuji to market a competitively priced "twin lens kit" against the DSLR market and more importantly against the OM-D and Sony Nex cameras. Fuji need this camera to get more casual users into the X series system so they can then upgrade them with additional lenses and higher spec bodies.



    Agreed, it is inevitable!

    I think the X-M1 is actually the X-A1, and there is no 4th body. In the history of rumored new X Series camera names, the first rumored name is rarely ever the final name.

    That being said, if Fuji created an M mount body, they would find a lot of Leica owners considering a switch. The trouble is, this is probably too niche of a market, and Fujifilm addressed it with their M mount adaptor. Best of all, their adaptor will work on all 3 bodies.

    The X-A1 makes sense as an entry level camera, the X-E1 without a viewfinder, but instead a pop out rear LCD. Putting a 4th body somewhere in between the two just doesn't make sense.
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  • ChristopherChristopher
    Posts: 2,534
    jac said:

    Yet to come..

    X-G1 = Gay
    X-K1 = Kids
    X-T1 = Traveller
    X-U1 = Underwater



    Hah! Now the X-U1 would actually be pretty awesome!
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  • jacjac
    Posts: 675
    I think an X-AP2 - All terrain, weather sealed X Pro2 - would rock



  • pominpocketpominpocket
    Posts: 2,030
    I will be sticking to the cream of the cream and the prime lenses .
    Fuji X100S
    Fuji XE1 35mm 1.4



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