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New Sony RX1 - An X100 killer?


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Agree on the pricing prohibiting it from 'killing' the likes of the X100 however, Sony did make a statement. Whether you like the brand or not, IMO Sony is the most akin to our beloved Fujifilm in pushing the industry forward with innovation and in philosophy. To me it seems that Canon & Nikon are lagging behind and content w/their dwindling market share and while the M43 group (Oly, Panny) have built a great system, a couple great bodies (OMD, GH2/3), they will forever be challenged by sheer IQ Potential. The other more niche/pro players will always be there doing their thing and will always be our (photographers) 'camera porn'...the Leica & Hass of the world. Sony is doing what Fuji is doing; bringing technology, quality and form factors into real-world, sensibly priced (when compared to the niche brands)products...albeit both companies are a bit quirky.

Having said that, I am tempted. I just got my XPro1 and look forward to the 23/1.4 next year and would be interested in comparing it to the RX1 then...IF it came down to $1800US. Tho what's up with no VF?!? I hate add-on finders because it eliminates the hotshoe...IQ would have to KILL my Fuji to justify that...ah screw it I'll just wait patiently for Fuji to up the ante once again :)

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3000$... its the same price as a pro dslr.... I mean I know it has a FF sensor.... but 3 grand seems excessive. Sure it will have great IQ, and I understand investing 3 grand on a camera that will be around with you for a few years. But at the rate tech advances that 3 grand investment will loose value way faster than dslr that has the versatility of sticking around longer because of the interchangeable lenses.

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Yes there is apparently a tilt-up viewfinder to be plugged into the hotshoe ... I can see some advantages with a tilt-up EVF, but at the same time, being this an add-on, it would deteriorate significantly the portability, solidity and form factor of a camera like this one. Not to mention the additional cost (600 USD) to be added to the already hefty 2'800 USD for the camera itself.

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I suspect that the reason Sony went FF is because they had to in order to match the output of the x100. The big sensor and Zeiss glass may allow Sony to compete with Fuji in terms of IQ. Something that they have not been able to do to date.

Does that $600 optional OVF adjust for parallax and display shooting info? I'll bet not. The hybrid OVF is what separates the x100 and X-Pro1 from the rest of the field.

So what you've got here is a camera that costs more than three-times as much as the x100 and is not as enjoyable to use. Unless the IQ is WAY better (which I doubt), I just don't get it.

You could buy an X-Pro1 and all three lenses for the price of this fixed lens Sony with a 'dumb' OVF. I REALLY don't get it.

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The price seems fair to me assuming that the 35mm zeiss glass fixed to it is good. I know its a stop slower but the A mount Sony-zeiss 35mm lens is around $2k on its own. Premium full frame glass plus body for $2800 seems to me to be all right but, I don't got that kinda cash!

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ok i just read something that did spark my interest.... it has a leaf shutter... that means crazy flash sync speeds... even though im still not on the bandwagon that does makes this camera a bit more appealing.

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Leaf shutter. Full frame sensor. This explains the price. HOWEVER, still not worth the extra money for me. It's all a matter of what's important to you but at the price I doubt it's an X100 killer for too many folks. The X-E1 is probably the true X100 killer.

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Nothing will kill my X100....!!!

Well said:-)

+1 .... at the risk being seen as a fanboy.

The price seems fair to me assuming that the 35mm zeiss glass fixed to it is good. I know its a stop slower but the A mount Sony-zeiss 35mm lens is around $2k on its own. Premium full frame glass plus body for $2800 seems to me to be all right but, I don't got that kinda cash!

On the assumption that the Sony zeiss 35mm Lens you mentioned is the same as the one being stuck with this camera in question. Which I feel it isn't the same.

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The X100 is immortal despite its shortcomings, at least mine is. My wallet would disintegrate/melt should I attempt to extract that amount of money. There is a point of diminishing returns. Don't need, don't want the Sony, thank you.

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Oh well , this Nerd will get one if it lives up to its spec.

I really agree with the earlier poster that Fuji and Sony are pushing the development of digital cameras while Nikon and Canon ( especially Canon ) seem to have lost the plot.

Given that Sony produce some of the finest sensors today and there is speculation that the sensor will be the same as that of the Leica M10 it should also appeal to the the Leica crowd ie ME!

This takes nothing away from the X100 and what I expect to be its long and useful life.

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A camera, is a camera, is a camera. They all take photos to varying degrees of efficiency (including the ability of the person tripping the shutter). While the RX1 may be the latest, greatest thing, for me, there is a limit on what my resources can support. The X100 (and 2 other cameras I own) will satisfy me for a long time without serious damage to my wallet. I like what Fuji, Olympus, and Panasonic do with their specific models. Everything in moderation.

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